102 | Grief & Gratitude
Approaching the holiday season can be difficult, but it's important not to gloss over those moments of grief with spiritual bypassing. Deedra and Megan discuss how important it is to hold the tension of the both/and in life, how shadows make the light seem brighter, and sitting with all the parts of ourselves in those moments.
In this episode, they referenced Episode 25: Enneagram and Harmony Triads.
101 | Happiness & the Enneagram
Deedra and Megan work through happiness: what is it, how do we get it, and why do we need to be aware of it? Like any emotion, happiness is neutral. It’s an indication of what is going on beneath the surface. Happiness by definition is the feeling of pleasure or contentment as the result of favorable circumstances. Happiness can be found when our Spirit-led Self experiences moments of pleasure from a whole and free existence. Happiness can also be found when our overworked managers are keeping us from pain and securing the things we think we need to survive.
Listen as they run through each enneagram type and discuss what might make each type happy. Plus: they both admit which three fictional characters they relate to most!
Episode 83: Anger and the Enneagram
Dr. Alison Cook joins Deedra and Megan on the 100th episode of the podcast today! One of our favorite guests, Alison is an IFS therapist and author who just released her new book, The Best of You: Break Free from Painful Patterns, Mend Your Past, and Discover Your True Self in God. Listen as she talks about:
And if you haven't yet, check out our earlier episode 71: Boundaries For Your Soul with Dr. Alison Cook.
Alison Cook, MA, PhD is a psychologist and the author of two books, including her new book, The Best of You (Thomas Nelson 2022) and Boundaries for Your Soul (Thomas Nelson, 2018). For over 20 years, Alison has helped women, ministry leaders, couples, and families learn how to heal painful emotions, develop confidence from the inside out, forge healthy relationships, and fully live out their God-given potential. You can find her at alisoncookphd.com and on Instagram and Facebook.
99 | Celebrating Two Years!
We are celebrating the last two years--and 99 episodes--of The Dauntless Grace Exchange with some of our favorite guests, Meg and Kami! Listen for a behind-the-scenes view into how Deedra and Megan create the weekly podcast. They also recap their favorite series, amazing guests, and things they've learned along the way. Plus, some faithful listeners call in to share their thoughts on the last two years!
Check out a few of the episodes they mention:
58: Road Trip Edition
49: Dawn Amsden Stark
71: Dr. Alison Cook
74: Jenna Riemersma
69: Tammy Sollenberger
31: Kaitlyn Schiess
45: Heather Thompson Day
73: Kami Amsden
48: Meg Amsden
54: Hope & Expectation
75: Your Enneagram Coach Beth McCord
83: Anger & the Enneagram
84: The Miracles of Jesus
40: Conflict Styles
98 | Wholeness & Integration
Dauntless Grace has been on a health journey through the podcast this year. We’ve discussed: emotional health; relational health; physical health; and mental health. Megan and Deedra share where they’ve found more wholeness and areas in which they still struggle. But overall, we agree, the journey is worth it, and we break down what each enneagram number needs to hear to get started. Also, episode 100 is fast approaching, and we’ve got some awesome celebrations planned! Don’t miss out, so subscribe to the podcast today!
Carolyn Whitney joins Megan and Deedra on the podcast today to talk about her journey through her husband's addiction and finding her own healing on the other side of that trauma. Listen as she encourages us to stand in community with one another as we walk through pain and struggles and to see the hope of Jesus through it all.
Carolyn Whitney is the Founder and President of Sisters In Christ, Inc., a nonprofit organization founded in 1997. The vision and passion for Sisters In Christ is to make a difference in the lives of women struggling with addiction, mental health, and abuse issues while promoting a community of sisterhood worldwide.
Carolyn is a Public Service Honor Award Recipient, a public speaker and aspires to become a best-selling author. She is also a Certified Substance Abuse Counselor and a Certified Substance Abuse Supervisor in the state of Missouri. Her influence in the community brings strategic direction, voice, solid strategic thinking, and vision, which led Sisters In Christ to become a 2022 Chick-fil-A True Inspiration Award recipient and win the 2021 “Community Hero Award.” Carolyn resides in Raytown, Missouri, her home of 20+ years, with her family.
You can learn more about how to support Carolyn's work on her website, on her Instagram, and on Facebook.
Content warning: suicide
Today’s guests are mother and daughter duo Carey Conley and Laurel Wilson. After losing two members of their family to suicide just three years apart – Carey's husband (Laurel's father) and Carey's son (Laurel's brother) – these two strong women chose not to just survive, but to thrive in the face of such adversity. Join us we discuss things like: finding your super safe people; mirroring the needs of others; asking others if they want you to listen or give advice/help; and language to use around suicide. We also discussed how both of them are enneagram Threes and learned more about themselves in the process of healing.
Their mission is to help people of all ages identify their God-given purpose through Vision. Carey and Laurel offer hope to others by helping them uncover their silver lining perspective. When they're not at home in Oklahoma City or Scottsdale, you can find them on stages worldwide, teaching everyone – young and young at heart – that it's never too late to write down your vision and start living out your true purpose.
You can find their story in their book Suicide">Keep Looking Up: Transforming Grief into Hope after Tragedy.
Follow Laurel and Carey on Instagram!
Kendall and Janell return to the podcast to talk about their business as coaches who take people on a journey of transformation. Besides working with people on the typical nutrition and fitness aspects of coaching, Kendall and Janell dig into what drives people under everything, using enneagram, emotions work, IFS, and embodiment practices. Deedra and Megan accidentally get a little too real as they discuss their own journey of re-integrating their bodies into their whole selves.
You can schedule a free consultation with Kendall and Janell on their website: kendallandjanell.com
Check out Kendall and Janell's earlier episode 86 where they talk about their enneagram numbers in relationship with each other and follow them on Instagram.
And don't miss the following episodes that were referenced: Breathing and Embodiment with Meg Amsden, IFS with Jenna Riemersma, and IFS with Dr. Alison Cook.
And we talked a LOT about Dr. Hilary McBride's book, Wisdom of the Body. Grab it on Amazon!
Megan and Deedra talk with Peggy Scott about the outward expression of our inner work--specifically, the presence we are putting out into the world. Peggy Scott is a presence coach, author and public speaker. She is passionate about having people shine their very best through their personal presence, which then extends to every part of their life. She has 30+ years of developing and delivering transformational programs that produce phenomenal and lasting results with her clients. Peggy is on a mission to empower women to stand confidently in their power to be seen, valued and respected.
You can find Peggy on her website, on Facebook, on Instagram, on LinkedIn, or on Twitter.
Suzanne Overstreet joins Deedra and Megan to discuss the enneagram and health journeys. As a wellness coach, she dives into each type and what common pitfalls may be for each type and how to best coach them through it.
Suzanne started a health journey in February of 2018 with the goal of losing some weight and feeling comfortable on the campaign trail with her husband. What she didn't count on was a transformation in mindset, passion, and purpose. Now she is a full time Independent Optavia coach who helps others achieve their goals for a healthy body, healthy mind, and healthy finances. She has been interested in learning about the enneagram for the past couple of years and now uses it in her health coaching with her clients to help raise self-awareness of how their fears and motivations can affect their health journey.
You can find Suzanne on Facebook and Instagram. You can also set up a free 20-minute consultation by emailing Suzanne at firstname.lastname@example.org.
We are wrapping up this enneagram and relationships series with two best friends: Lorna and Katrina! Lorna is a Six and Katrina is a Seven, and together they talk about how they meet each other in the middle of what each needs: planning v. spontaneity and quiet nights in v. exciting adventures. Realizing their types was a huge key in how they interact, and we are thankful they share their stories so openly!
Lorna is a creative communications professional (aka nerdy artist), with a heart for Jesus and social justice who loves sushi, boba, her dog, books, musicals, the color black, and using too many examples in an intro.
Katrina is a wife to Dan and bio/adoptive/foster mom to four children. She enjoys leading worship, meeting new people and serves as chief culture officer at Greenville University. She loves to share her Cuban heritage through food and can be found singing karaoke or dancing salsa in her living room at the end of a long week with her family.
Best friends and ministry co-directors Ginger and Annie join us to discuss how the enneagram plays in their relationship. Ginger is a 5, and Annie is a 1. They share how they learned about their types; how each of them has learned to lean into their strengths to pull up the other's weaknesses; how their numbers ebb and flow into stress and security; and why understanding the energy levels of both is so important.
Don't miss Episode 18, where Ginger talks all things enneagram Five.
To support Eden's Glory's fall fundraiser, check out Graze in the Grass.
In Reverend Ginger Coakley's own words: I am humbled that God called me to lead something like this. Eden’s Glory is an act of courage and obedience, EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. It is also an honor to have a front row seat to the transforming power and grace of God. In 2010 I was completely unaware that slavery still existed. When I heard, I devoured information from statistics to documentaries, to narrative accounts. I was heart broken at the reality. I was angered by the injustice, and I was CALLED to do something about it. So I quit my job, moved to Illinois, got married, bought a house, had a baby, and started a ministry all in the same year. Crazy! We have been open since September 2015 and I'm grateful to walk alongside survivors every day.
Annie Schomaker is a licensed clinical social worker with vast experience of casework, counseling, and training in her field. In 2004, God moved her heart to fight for the broken, the enslaved, and challenge systemic injustices and she has never turned back. Annie is the co-founder and lead program developer for Eden's Glory. MANY hours of learning, research, networking, writing, revising, wrestling, creativity, heart, and PRAYER have been given to the creation of a two-year treatment program for survivors of human trafficking. Annie leads us with a high standard, and with God's help and grace, to focus on the women and their pursuit of physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, and relational restoration.
Next up in the enneagram and relationship series: it's Brock and Kelsey Morgan! They're both enneagram Sevens, and we talk about all the things: living life as an adventure; what it looks like when someone needs to be structured; and what happens when you can't reframe something. Brock opens up about his anxiety, and Kelsey discloses the depression she hit in her infertility journey. Don't miss this episode because it's got the full range of emotions from these healthy Sevens!
Brock is an author, speaker, and youth pastor. Kelsey is an author and kids min pastor. Brock's latest book, The Anxious Teen, is available now!
Megan and Deedra have the privilege of speaking with pastors Soo Ji and Joe Alvarez on the podcast! Soo Ji is an enneagram 3, and her husband Joe is an 8, so together they make for one dynamic couple. We talk about two two aggressive numbers in relationship and how that manifests in their working together and in their parenting. We also discuss the impact of bringing four cultures together into their home (Soo Ji is Korean Canadian, and Joe is Mexican American) and how that plays out.
Soo Ji and Joe Alvarez are a unique clergy couple who are being used by God to reach people in the margins, bring reconciliation to the community, and raise up passionate followers of Jesus Christ. They are both ordained with the Free Methodist Church and they have been dynamically married for 17 years. They are blessed to have two “Mexirean” kids, Juaquin, their 15 year old son and Nayara, their 13 year old daughter. Currently Joe and Soo Ji pastor at The Avenue, a multiethnic Free Methodist Church in Southern California. Joe is also a relationship builder for Empowering Lives International and Soo Ji is the Conference Director for Wesleyan Holiness Women Clergy and a Program Director for Innovative Space for Asian American Christianity.
You can connect with Soo Ji on Facebook or Instagram.
In this episode, Deedra and Megan spend time answering some questions sent in by listeners such as:
Check out an early episode with Melissa: Episode 9: How God Interrupts our Stories
And for the books mentioned, we keep a great library of links on our Resources page.
Each week on the Dauntless Grace Exchange podcast, Deedra Mager and Megan Hall chat with Christian women about their faith, their fears, their victories, and their struggles in the hopes to connect women to a meaningful story.