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Deedra and Megan have a conversation about the relationship between fear and disconnection and how connection is the remedy for... everything. In Aundi Kolber's new book Strong Like Water, she explains how co-regulation keeps us steady, and how we can find that in the with-ness of God, our self, and others.
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Megan and Deedra spend some time processing what life is like post 40, after learning about IFS, and gaining new levels of healing. As they talk about their own journey with parts of themselves, they realize that there is a fine line between resignation and contentment, and sometimes parts that are silent are really failing to thrive.
Notes: The song Deedra mentioned is on YouTube. You can find all the authors we discussed (Fr. Richard Rohr, Dr. Hilary McBride, and Dr. Curt Thompson) on our Resources page.
Deedra and Megan go back to basics in this episode to talk about why they use the enneagram, why they think it's important, and why it doesn't contradict the beliefs of Christians. In fact, the enneagram paired with the Gospel is an incredible tool for sanctification!
Notes: The Dauntless Grace enneagram page The Relevant article
Enneagram teacher Joan Ryan joins the podcast again to discuss the parts of being a Nine, along with so much more! Listen as she explores:
Joan Ryan has been teaching the Enneagram to individuals, groups, businesses and organizations for more than 20 years. Using the experience gained in her previous practice as an attorney, she built a Leadership coaching career which expanded into many sectors and internationally. When she found IFS she saw the possibilities of interweaving the two models as a very positive enhancement to both systems. She had the unusual honor of being directly mentored by two of the premier Enneagram teachers, Helen Palmer and the late Dr. David Daniels. Her most recent work with Tammy Sollenberger focuses on the intersections between the Enneagram and Internal Family Systems therapy. She lives in Boston. Notes: Episode 70: Enneagram and IFS in the Narrative Tradition IEA Global Conference 2023
Enneagram Eight Kennedy Shuffett joins the podcast to talk with Megan and Deedra about all the parts she's discovered as an Eight and through some Internal Family Systems (IFS) experiences. She reveals that she first thought she was Two, how she's found some helpful Five parts in seasons of deep stress, and why it's difficult to be a female Eight in our society.
Kennedy is wife to Josiah and dog mom to Ellie and Moses. She holds a Master of Social Work from LSU and currently serves as the Office on Violence Against Women Project Director for Greenville University.
Corrine Kreamalmeyer jumps on the podcast to talk all things enneagram Seven with Deedra and Megan. Corrine shares her journey in discovering she was a Seven and what she heard that really made it click for her. She also talks a little IFS and about what her Five and One parts look like when they're activated, and how she has some Eight parts that show up as firefighters sometimes.
Corrine is a wife and mom to four girls. She has a degree in Elementary Education, but has been a stay-at-home mom for the last 13 years. She recently added admissions counselor for Greenville University to her resume. She currently spends most days trying to balance soccer, dance, laundry and working. If she could, she would spend more time writing, being with friends and family, and sitting by the ocean.
Enneagram Six Marissa Swift joins the podcast today and shares a beautiful Internal Family Systems (IFS) moment she had at a recent Dauntless Grace retreat. She also shares what some of her Three and Nine parts feel like for her, and what it means to navigate the world through the lens of planning for what's wrong.
Marissa and her husband Chris have been married for 16 years and have one son. Marissa has worked in higher ed for eight years. In her free time, she loves rooting for St. Louis City FC and coaching her son's soccer team.
Skye Harmon joins the podcast to discuss what it means to be an enneagram Five. She, Megan, and Deedra talk about the differences between Fours and Fives, what it means to visualize an Internal Family Systems (IFS) experience, and how Skye uses Seven and Eight energy to help herself.
Skye is a self-leadership coach and enneagram 5w4, artist, writer, all-around beauty-seeker, lover of deep conversations and tacos. You can find Skye on her website, Etsy shop, Instagram, and Facebook.
Carolyn Candela joins Megan and Deedra as they talk about all the parts of being an enneagram Four. They really dig into the nuance of how Fours are different from Twos and Threes, and Carolyn shares some parts she's discovered through her IFS work.
Carolyn Candela is a Yoga Instructor and Life Coach located in Bend, Oregon. Carolyn's mission is to help disconnected humans live full and embodied lives through connecting to the seasons and cycles of nature. Carolyn is an Enneagram 4w3. She enjoys using the Enneagram to better understand and connect with her clients. In her free time, Carolyn enjoys reading about and studying topics that interest her (The Enneagram, Human Design, psychology, and health & wellness to name a few!), exploring nature, practicing any type of movement (yoga, dance, etc.), writing, and pursuing new creative outlets. You can find Carolyn on Instagram.
Enneagram Three Lauren Vardaman joins Deedra and Megan on the podcast to talk about her journey being a Three and discovering some principles of Internal Family Systems (IFS) for her own healing. Lauren's story encompasses infant loss and miscarriage, and she reveals why learning about being a Three made so much sense as she looks at her grieving process and how she uses her tasking managers to make her way forward.
Lauren is a 36-year-old wife to Lars and mama to one spunky five-and-three-quarters year old boy named Beau and two children in heaven named Ellis and Aster. She currently works in compensation consulting but has a diverse job history, from running beer festivals to working the expo floor at a national cable providers conference. She lives in Fort Myers, Florida, home of the recent largest hurricane in Florida history. Her happy place is the beach, and her angry place is on any road in Southwest Florida.
Deedra's youngest daughter Lela joins the podcast today to talk about being an enneagram Two and some amazing Internal Family Systems (IFS) experiences she's had. The conversation flows from identifying parts of herself in her wings and connecting lines to how amazing God is at giving her a fairy tale glimpse of his love for her.
Lela Mager is an enneagram Two, a college student, and an artist in residence with Zion Dance Project. Check out her previous episode, along with her sisters, on Episode 87: Enneagram & Relationships: Hope, Sav, & Lela
Enneagram One Randi McSpadden joins Megan and Deedra to discuss the constellation of parts for her type and how she sees her wings and stress and security lines in action.
Randi and her husband Mike have been married for 25 years and have three amazing children. Randi has been in HR with Ascension Health for over 12 years and currently is the Manager of Associate Success. Her team focuses on eliminating onboarding barriers and creating growth pathways for new associates while improving retention within their first 90 days. In her free time, she loves to tuck away in her sewing room with a good podcast and work on her latest quilt project.
Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapist and podcast host Tammy Sollenberger is back to talk about one of her favorite topics: IFS and the enneagram! Tammy, Megan, and Deedra discuss using the enneagram as a map to find parts of ourselves. Every person has a constellation of parts that begin with their core enneagram number and include their wings and connecting lines. You don't want to miss this introductory episode to this brand-new series!
Concepts discussed in this episode developed by Joan Ryan and Tammy Sollenberger. You can find Tammy on Instagram and Facebook, and check out her podcast, The One Inside, wherever you listen! You can also purchase her book, The One Inside: 30 Days to Your Authentic Self.
This week we're dropping a day early to celebrate Valentine's Day with you! But we also choose to celebrate the gal pal holiday (thanks to Park and Rec) Galentine's Day. In honor of February 13, we decide to play an on-air game of Let's Get Deep: Friends Edition by asking each other questions from the cards!
Real talk: we don't get super deep, but we do get to tell some funny friendship stories, and we answer the following:
Deedra and Megan do what they do best today: talk about something they've recently discovered and how it plays with the enneagram! Today is all about attachment styles. Attachment styles are part of relationship theories about how infants receive care, attention, and affection from a caregiver. But our attachment styles play out all the time in our intimate adult relationships. In this episode, we define the four attachment styles, discuss how they relate to enneagram stances from last weekend, and offer a working theory on which numbers could identify with which attachment styles.
Do you agree? Disagree? We want to hear from you! What is your enneagram number, and what is your most prominent attachment style? 
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